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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by James T</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9923</link>
		<dc:creator>James T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sensible Swimming, totally agree.

The reason I mentioned Top 50, 100, was that during the Cameron era these benchmarks, in addition to FINA points, were often used to determine things like carding, Prime Minister&#039;s Scholarships etc for our swimmers.  Probably still is, but there was always scant information available and the policies were never applied consistently or equitably.  Even if our swimmers were nowhere near the standard required, just trying to understand the &quot;pathways&quot; as Cameron used to refer to, was a complete mystery.  You know, the old adage, &quot;knowledge is power&quot;.

But the thing that just sticks in the throat is that the clubs were constantly told that the SPARC funding for High Performance sport was ONLY to be used for the handful of elite swimmers and was NOT for emerging talent or promising young swimmers, or any other SNZ purpose.  This apparently was the SPARC criteria for narrowly targeted funding for medal prospects at the Olympics.  I even recall a radio interview with Cameron on the Deaker show when asked about the SPARC funding and how much would be used on promising new talent, and the answer was NONE, that it was only for the handful of top swimmers, and that this was a specific SPARC condition of HP funding.

What we have instead is a clear case of money being siphoned away into the SNZ big black hole of its overheads, a doubling of the numbers in the HP with most swimmers who frankly should not even be there, and promises about how they are going to light the world on fire in 2016.  

And then swimmers like Natalie Wiegersma who STILL gets bugger all funding.  Or Cara Baker, does she get funding?  Hell no.  Or any ranked swimmer that has left the HP Centre, do they get funding?  Don&#039;t be stupid.  Oh, but hordes of promising Wellington swimmers who frankly don&#039;t have a hope in hell of making an Aquablack team any time soon are getting funded.

In a nutshell, why is there a new HP Centre in Wellington?  

The answer is Mark Berge who was the Chairman of Capital SC ... plus ... the Chairman of Swimming Wellington .. plus ... a Board Member of SNZ ... plus ... now the Chair of the High Performance Review Committee.  Add to that shocking collection of conflicts of interests the usual stooges Byrne, Butler, Cull and McDonald, and the result is:

Two fingers to the review!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sensible Swimming, totally agree.</p>
<p>The reason I mentioned Top 50, 100, was that during the Cameron era these benchmarks, in addition to FINA points, were often used to determine things like carding, Prime Minister&#8217;s Scholarships etc for our swimmers.  Probably still is, but there was always scant information available and the policies were never applied consistently or equitably.  Even if our swimmers were nowhere near the standard required, just trying to understand the &#8220;pathways&#8221; as Cameron used to refer to, was a complete mystery.  You know, the old adage, &#8220;knowledge is power&#8221;.</p>
<p>But the thing that just sticks in the throat is that the clubs were constantly told that the SPARC funding for High Performance sport was ONLY to be used for the handful of elite swimmers and was NOT for emerging talent or promising young swimmers, or any other SNZ purpose.  This apparently was the SPARC criteria for narrowly targeted funding for medal prospects at the Olympics.  I even recall a radio interview with Cameron on the Deaker show when asked about the SPARC funding and how much would be used on promising new talent, and the answer was NONE, that it was only for the handful of top swimmers, and that this was a specific SPARC condition of HP funding.</p>
<p>What we have instead is a clear case of money being siphoned away into the SNZ big black hole of its overheads, a doubling of the numbers in the HP with most swimmers who frankly should not even be there, and promises about how they are going to light the world on fire in 2016.  </p>
<p>And then swimmers like Natalie Wiegersma who STILL gets bugger all funding.  Or Cara Baker, does she get funding?  Hell no.  Or any ranked swimmer that has left the HP Centre, do they get funding?  Don&#8217;t be stupid.  Oh, but hordes of promising Wellington swimmers who frankly don&#8217;t have a hope in hell of making an Aquablack team any time soon are getting funded.</p>
<p>In a nutshell, why is there a new HP Centre in Wellington?  </p>
<p>The answer is Mark Berge who was the Chairman of Capital SC &#8230; plus &#8230; the Chairman of Swimming Wellington .. plus &#8230; a Board Member of SNZ &#8230; plus &#8230; now the Chair of the High Performance Review Committee.  Add to that shocking collection of conflicts of interests the usual stooges Byrne, Butler, Cull and McDonald, and the result is:</p>
<p>Two fingers to the review!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by Sensible Swimming</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9920</link>
		<dc:creator>Sensible Swimming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James T - Thanks for raising the matter of Wellington HP.  I have been fuming about this for weeks.  David we need your insight on this subject to please.  

I want to add to @Tom (&quot;looking forward&quot;) and @Chris (&quot;grow the business&quot;) my sheer and visceral distaste for the use of the term &#039;High Performance&quot; to justify spending money in support of ahtletes whose claim to achievement ranks no better than moderate to mediocre and by world standards probably poor.  

I will not become personal in naming individual athletes (because it is not their fault that SNZ administrators are completely inept when it comes to protecting the public purse) but I fail to see how any athlete who is ranking lower than 50 in the world can be defined as being High Performance and is worthy of tax payer support.  By that definition there is only one athlete in Wellington who currently deserves recognition (and support) under a High Performance moniker. There are also considerable numbers in Auckland who receive tax-payer support who should not and then there are a handful of others around the country and overseas who receive nothing in support who should.

I am over these people - I do not begrudge my tax dollars being spent on athletes who have genuinely achieved something (Olympic or World Championship qualification maybe a good level to start) but I am absolutely opposed to tax payer dollars being spent on athletes below that level, no matter how promising someone may think they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James T &#8211; Thanks for raising the matter of Wellington HP.  I have been fuming about this for weeks.  David we need your insight on this subject to please.  </p>
<p>I want to add to @Tom (&#8220;looking forward&#8221;) and @Chris (&#8220;grow the business&#8221;) my sheer and visceral distaste for the use of the term &#8216;High Performance&#8221; to justify spending money in support of ahtletes whose claim to achievement ranks no better than moderate to mediocre and by world standards probably poor.  </p>
<p>I will not become personal in naming individual athletes (because it is not their fault that SNZ administrators are completely inept when it comes to protecting the public purse) but I fail to see how any athlete who is ranking lower than 50 in the world can be defined as being High Performance and is worthy of tax payer support.  By that definition there is only one athlete in Wellington who currently deserves recognition (and support) under a High Performance moniker. There are also considerable numbers in Auckland who receive tax-payer support who should not and then there are a handful of others around the country and overseas who receive nothing in support who should.</p>
<p>I am over these people &#8211; I do not begrudge my tax dollars being spent on athletes who have genuinely achieved something (Olympic or World Championship qualification maybe a good level to start) but I am absolutely opposed to tax payer dollars being spent on athletes below that level, no matter how promising someone may think they are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by James T</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9919</link>
		<dc:creator>James T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but on what basis can SNZ justify a new HP Centre in Wellington?  In the middle of a major review, no less?  Slipped through post Rugby WC fever, holidays, and unfortunately, while your site was down David.  

Is that not completely inappropriate to be making major financial commitments, no doubt having entered into long term contracts, when the very question of SNZ&#039;s structure including high performance is likely to be part of the review?  Were there no boundaries placed on Butler, Byrne and this Board?  Is this not a case bordering on malfeasance?  Is this not another case of shocking governance?

And where the hell is this Coalition calling them to account?

And I guess I should also ask the other obvious questions.  Given that there is only one elite high performance swimmer that I can think of in Wellington who I would say justifies SPARC support, has Capital SC had a sudden influx of swimmers ranked in the World Top 50, or even Top 100, or even 150, or lets be generous, Top 200?  These of course were the figures that would be bandied about to justify the supposed select few in Auckland.

So SNZ has just handed Capital SC an annual cheque, for what I would estimate, at least $150,000 per annum, probably more, as their coaches salary, expenses, and their pool hire is now being paid for by us.

I reckon that since they are feeling so generous with money that doesn&#039;t belong to them, and since SPARC are as compliant in this sham as anyone, every coach with swimmers ranked higher than the swimmers in the Wellington HP Centre (excluding Gareth Kean of course) should put their bill in for their salary and pool hire to be paid for by SNZ.

I think that&#039;s fair, don&#039;t you David?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but on what basis can SNZ justify a new HP Centre in Wellington?  In the middle of a major review, no less?  Slipped through post Rugby WC fever, holidays, and unfortunately, while your site was down David.  </p>
<p>Is that not completely inappropriate to be making major financial commitments, no doubt having entered into long term contracts, when the very question of SNZ&#8217;s structure including high performance is likely to be part of the review?  Were there no boundaries placed on Butler, Byrne and this Board?  Is this not a case bordering on malfeasance?  Is this not another case of shocking governance?</p>
<p>And where the hell is this Coalition calling them to account?</p>
<p>And I guess I should also ask the other obvious questions.  Given that there is only one elite high performance swimmer that I can think of in Wellington who I would say justifies SPARC support, has Capital SC had a sudden influx of swimmers ranked in the World Top 50, or even Top 100, or even 150, or lets be generous, Top 200?  These of course were the figures that would be bandied about to justify the supposed select few in Auckland.</p>
<p>So SNZ has just handed Capital SC an annual cheque, for what I would estimate, at least $150,000 per annum, probably more, as their coaches salary, expenses, and their pool hire is now being paid for by us.</p>
<p>I reckon that since they are feeling so generous with money that doesn&#8217;t belong to them, and since SPARC are as compliant in this sham as anyone, every coach with swimmers ranked higher than the swimmers in the Wellington HP Centre (excluding Gareth Kean of course) should put their bill in for their salary and pool hire to be paid for by SNZ.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s fair, don&#8217;t you David?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9915</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  And that horrible phrase &quot;grow the business&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  And that horrible phrase &#8220;grow the business&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by David</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9913</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom - without doubt going forward is awful. It was one of Jan&#039;s favourites. At the Commonwealth Games her news reports were full of the New Zealand team going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom &#8211; without doubt going forward is awful. It was one of Jan&#8217;s favourites. At the Commonwealth Games her news reports were full of the New Zealand team going forward.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9912</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My apologies.  33 staff.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.swimwatch.net/2012/02/dishonourable-intentions.html#comment-9911</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - what is meant by an event ratification process being established?  We already have an &quot;event ratification process&quot;.  This is already done at the regional level and has been for as long as I can remember.  

All regions already have a process of ratifying events in their region which is normally done through their Technical Committees.  Their job is to oversee the ratification process to ensure that any events on the calendar in their region meet with the technical requirements i.e. required number of Referees, officials etc. before it is approved, and before results can be submitted to Take Your Marks.  There is a Technical Certificate that a Meet Referee must sign off after every session, which is then approved and ratified by a region&#039;s board.  And if a Technical Certificate with all the necessary paperwork is not produced, the meet will not be ratified.  Simple.

So for example, if my local club decides to run a club meet and doesn&#039;t have the required number of qualified officials, or qualified Referees, or doesn&#039;t comply with the rules in any way, it can&#039;t have its results ratified by the region.  Fair enough.

What I think this is David, is EITHER:

1.  We (SNZ) don&#039;t believe anything that doesn&#039;t come out of Wellington is of an appropriate standard, because of course everything that we (SNZ) do is of such a superior standard and quality, we wish to ensure quality control is vested in Pelorus House, where of course we believe regions have no function and are a waste of space and we&#039;ve been wanting to get rid of them anyway.  And by the way, if we don&#039;t like you, we won&#039;t ratify your meet!

OR

2.  We (SNZ) think that this is a great way of moving even more control to our 32 staff because they need to justify their jobs, and besides, this can be a tidy little money-spinner, because, think about it, if we take control of all swim meets throughout the entire country we can then charge a &quot;ratification fee&quot; for our new service (which up until now has been free, but that&#039;s just a red herring).

OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

(BTW glad to see you back on the airwaves David).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; what is meant by an event ratification process being established?  We already have an &#8220;event ratification process&#8221;.  This is already done at the regional level and has been for as long as I can remember.  </p>
<p>All regions already have a process of ratifying events in their region which is normally done through their Technical Committees.  Their job is to oversee the ratification process to ensure that any events on the calendar in their region meet with the technical requirements i.e. required number of Referees, officials etc. before it is approved, and before results can be submitted to Take Your Marks.  There is a Technical Certificate that a Meet Referee must sign off after every session, which is then approved and ratified by a region&#8217;s board.  And if a Technical Certificate with all the necessary paperwork is not produced, the meet will not be ratified.  Simple.</p>
<p>So for example, if my local club decides to run a club meet and doesn&#8217;t have the required number of qualified officials, or qualified Referees, or doesn&#8217;t comply with the rules in any way, it can&#8217;t have its results ratified by the region.  Fair enough.</p>
<p>What I think this is David, is EITHER:</p>
<p>1.  We (SNZ) don&#8217;t believe anything that doesn&#8217;t come out of Wellington is of an appropriate standard, because of course everything that we (SNZ) do is of such a superior standard and quality, we wish to ensure quality control is vested in Pelorus House, where of course we believe regions have no function and are a waste of space and we&#8217;ve been wanting to get rid of them anyway.  And by the way, if we don&#8217;t like you, we won&#8217;t ratify your meet!</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>2.  We (SNZ) think that this is a great way of moving even more control to our 32 staff because they need to justify their jobs, and besides, this can be a tidy little money-spinner, because, think about it, if we take control of all swim meets throughout the entire country we can then charge a &#8220;ratification fee&#8221; for our new service (which up until now has been free, but that&#8217;s just a red herring).</p>
<p>OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.</p>
<p>(BTW glad to see you back on the airwaves David).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 09:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome back David. I think you need to be wary of anyone who writes &quot;going forward&quot; in a communication. It’s probably my (least) favourite example of corporate speak. I can’t wait to hear about SNZ’s next round of “blue sky thinking”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back David. I think you need to be wary of anyone who writes &#8220;going forward&#8221; in a communication. It’s probably my (least) favourite example of corporate speak. I can’t wait to hear about SNZ’s next round of “blue sky thinking”.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dishonourable Intentions by chhill</title>
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		<dc:creator>chhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the class act and skill level displayed by SNZ technical officials in Greerton as detailed in your previous article &quot;The Rules&quot;  i can&#039;t see how they would be able to ratify a single meet in NZ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the class act and skill level displayed by SNZ technical officials in Greerton as detailed in your previous article &#8220;The Rules&#8221;  i can&#8217;t see how they would be able to ratify a single meet in NZ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Introducing Heidi by David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 00:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sensible Swimming - Thank you. Yes Heidi did real well. I think she has the makings of a good one. She is off to the NSW Champs next week and hopefully will continue to improve. Rhi did get two further US Olympic Trials cuts. Thats four in total. She is a class act. It amazes me how often great athletes make their coach look good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sensible Swimming &#8211; Thank you. Yes Heidi did real well. I think she has the makings of a good one. She is off to the NSW Champs next week and hopefully will continue to improve. Rhi did get two further US Olympic Trials cuts. Thats four in total. She is a class act. It amazes me how often great athletes make their coach look good.</p>
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